Comments on: My Life with ZoneTag http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html Musings on technology, the Web, mobility and beyond Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:45:51 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Alex Craxton http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html/comment-page-1#comment-21583 Alex Craxton Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:48 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html#comment-21583 Hi Dan, if you look into the EXIF format (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format) you will find that come the day where GPS is enabled in more phones this data is already attached to the image you upload, therefore using things like ShoZu should still be able to make use of location information on files, videos and so on. All it comes down to is the phone companies making sure this data is attached to the images. Another interesting thing is if I can capture a GPS track on my phone, upload that seperately to the images, using the time we know the location (as it is specific to the mobile) therefore we dont need any more information and it is more accurate than CellID (unless you are in doors!). Hi Dan, if you look into the EXIF format (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format) you will find that come the day where GPS is enabled in more phones this data is already attached to the image you upload, therefore using things like ShoZu should still be able to make use of location information on files, videos and so on. All it comes down to is the phone companies making sure this data is attached to the images. Another interesting thing is if I can capture a GPS track on my phone, upload that seperately to the images, using the time we know the location (as it is specific to the mobile) therefore we dont need any more information and it is more accurate than CellID (unless you are in doors!).

]]> By: Daniel Appelquist http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html/comment-page-1#comment-21473 Daniel Appelquist Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:02:18 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html#comment-21473 Scott - you're right. This isn't ready for prime time yet. If I didn't work for a mobile operator, there is no way I would have been able to do this economically. It's not far off, though. We're seeing flat rate data rolled out across Europe, and cheaper (or at least more predictable) data roaming as well. Data roaming inevitably has to go to flat as well. Scott – you’re right. This isn’t ready for prime time yet. If I didn’t work for a mobile operator, there is no way I would have been able to do this economically. It’s not far off, though. We’re seeing flat rate data rolled out across Europe, and cheaper (or at least more predictable) data roaming as well. Data roaming inevitably has to go to flat as well.

]]> By: ScottB http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html/comment-page-1#comment-21422 ScottB Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:54:45 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html#comment-21422 Dan - this is a great use study and underlines a compelling mobile service which many road warriors, frequent travellers and holiday makers can relate too. I fear it is not ready for prime time yet though with the roaming surcharge on data usage. I'd be interested to know what your mobile bill was for this use from your holiday. Dan – this is a great use study and underlines a compelling mobile service which many road warriors, frequent travellers and holiday makers can relate too. I fear it is not ready for prime time yet though with the roaming surcharge on data usage. I’d be interested to know what your mobile bill was for this use from your holiday.

]]> By: SteveH http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html/comment-page-1#comment-21408 SteveH Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:52:24 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/2007/07/my-life-with-zonetag.html#comment-21408 Perhaps if zontag could extract a few geotags based on Cell-ID back into the client, it could embed these into the JPEG meta-data (JPEG has a "comment" section) in a reusable format. This would allow you your batch upload to Flickr without losing the original locations. It would also make the tagged media generally more portable. Opening out Zonetag's proposition a bit more, you could use a client app to extract Cell-ID and act as a window into a shared, editable, multi-operator online Gazetteer. This could then be used as a platform for other "open" location services by relating the geotags to other points of interest or other community content. See my LBS blog for a discussion of this: http://www.vodafonebetavine.net/web/guest/projects/resources/location_enhanced_services Steve Perhaps if zontag could extract a few geotags based on Cell-ID back into the client, it could embed these into the JPEG meta-data (JPEG has a “comment” section) in a reusable format. This would allow you your batch upload to Flickr without losing the original locations. It would also make the tagged media generally more portable.

Opening out Zonetag’s proposition a bit more, you could use a client app to extract Cell-ID and act as a window into a shared, editable, multi-operator online Gazetteer. This could then be used as a platform for other “open” location services by relating the geotags to other points of interest or other community content.

See my LBS blog for a discussion of this:
http://www.vodafonebetavine.net/web/guest/projects/resources/location_enhanced_services

Steve

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