Comments on: Beyond Point and Click http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html Musings on technology, the Web, mobility and beyond Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:09:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Håkan Jonsson http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-95434 Håkan Jonsson Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:41:43 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-95434 Manufacturers trade patents all the time. Few are kept to create a temporal monopoly except for a short time. Thus Apple's patents doesn't mean the gestures won't be implemented in other devices if the user's demand it. Manufacturers trade patents all the time. Few are kept to create a temporal monopoly except for a short time. Thus Apple’s patents doesn’t mean the gestures won’t be implemented in other devices if the user’s demand it.

]]> By: Alex Craxton http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90584 Alex Craxton Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:42:43 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90584 I think you have to test on-device for the sake of user experience, but what do you do when something fails, you rely on the device telling you where the problem is? I guess this comes down to how Apple (et al) integrate a development environment into the device so you can automate things a bit better. I just think not being able to debug and fix an application either on device or in a simulator/emulator is a real barrier. As a tech community we should not allow ourselves to go back to the days before good debug/simulation enviornments, worst UX is when an app is buggy and dies. I think you have to test on-device for the sake of user experience, but what do you do when something fails, you rely on the device telling you where the problem is? I guess this comes down to how Apple (et al) integrate a development environment into the device so you can automate things a bit better. I just think not being able to debug and fix an application either on device or in a simulator/emulator is a real barrier. As a tech community we should not allow ourselves to go back to the days before good debug/simulation enviornments, worst UX is when an app is buggy and dies.

]]> By: Daniel Appelquist http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90578 Daniel Appelquist Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:01:45 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90578 Testing is always a key issue with mobile development, and the iPhone is no different. It's just funny that iPhone developers (read: "used to developing on Macs for Macs") are now learning the lesson that mobile developers have known for years: you need to test on real devices. It adds a cumbersome step to the development process, but I don't think it's avoidable. Testing is always a key issue with mobile development, and the iPhone is no different. It’s just funny that iPhone developers (read: “used to developing on Macs for Macs”) are now learning the lesson that mobile developers have known for years: you need to test on real devices. It adds a cumbersome step to the development process, but I don’t think it’s avoidable.

]]> By: Alex Craxton http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90575 Alex Craxton Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:53:44 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90575 Hi Dan, one thing I hear from the iPhone developers is that it is very difficult to really test the UI other than loading the app onto the phone for the very reason of multitouch. I am not aware of any Mac/PC (including Tablet PCs) that have multitouch interfaces ... so I am not sure how Apple test it themselves? Thoughts? Cheers, Alex Hi Dan, one thing I hear from the iPhone developers is that it is very difficult to really test the UI other than loading the app onto the phone for the very reason of multitouch. I am not aware of any Mac/PC (including Tablet PCs) that have multitouch interfaces … so I am not sure how Apple test it themselves? Thoughts?

Cheers, Alex

]]> By: Daniel Appelquist http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90169 Daniel Appelquist Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:59:17 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90169 I did not know that. Thanks, John! I did not know that. Thanks, John!

]]> By: John West http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90143 John West Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:12:02 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90143 Small nit: Apple licensed the tech from Xerox, they didn't steal it. In return, Xerox got some amount of Apple stock that they later sold for quite a lot of money. Xerox sued Apple during the Apple v. Microsoft days, but that is widely viewed as having been a defensive act that would have allowed them to collect monies from Microsoft if Apple had prevailed. Small nit: Apple licensed the tech from Xerox, they didn’t steal it. In return, Xerox got some amount of Apple stock that they later sold for quite a lot of money. Xerox sued Apple during the Apple v. Microsoft days, but that is widely viewed as having been a defensive act that would have allowed them to collect monies from Microsoft if Apple had prevailed.

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html/comment-page-1#comment-90098 James Whatley Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:35:38 +0000 http://www.torgo.com/blog/?p=243#comment-90098 Nice piece. I'm a touch younger than your good self (if only slightly) so thanks for putting it into great context... Nice piece. I’m a touch younger than your good self (if only slightly) so thanks for putting it into great context…

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