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	<description>Musings on technology, the Web, mobility and beyond</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mobile 2.0 Europe Kicks Off by Live from Mobile 2.0 in Barcelona &#171; Le fil&#8230;the Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/07/mobile-20-eu-kicks-off.html#comment-119019</link>
		<dc:creator>Live from Mobile 2.0 in Barcelona &#171; Le fil&#8230;the Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are all in there, starting from Daniel Appelquist or Peter Versterbracka one of the founder of Mobile Monday Global community). Related articles by [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What is &#8220;Mobile 2.0&#8243;? by Elibom</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2006/09/what-is-mobile-20.html#comment-109989</link>
		<dc:creator>Elibom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. Post a wrong link.  Here is the tutorial link.

http://cid-facb429f1db87808.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/ICC%202008%20LBS%20for%20Mobiles%20%7C5simplified%7C6%20R2.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. Post a wrong link.  Here is the tutorial link.</p>
<p><a href="http://cid-facb429f1db87808.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/ICC%202008%20LBS%20for%20Mobiles%20%7C5simplified%7C6%20R2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cid-facb429f1db87808.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/ICC%202008%20LBS%20for%20Mobiles%20%7C5simplified%7C6%20R2.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What is &#8220;Mobile 2.0&#8243;? by Elibom</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2006/09/what-is-mobile-20.html#comment-109988</link>
		<dc:creator>Elibom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the LBS you mentioned, my year-old comment, which you might see it somewhere before, is the following.

These years I browsed around about the location-based services (LBS).  A more detailed explanation of LBS for mobiles can be found by

http://to.swang.googlepages.com/
http://to.swang.googlepages.com/lbs 



Most people believe it would be the next big thing or killer app. Quite a few others have different opinion. e.g.,

http://www.smallsurfaces.com/2008/06/do-we-need-lbs/
http://www.lewebmobile.com/2008/06/do-humans-really-need-location-based.html

Here I can possibly present one opinion from the consumer/end-user perspective, which I have posted in some other places too.

Do we need LBS so badly?

Before I really go to the details. Let me give a review of one simple concept and theory here, which are called “Home Range Concept” and “Traffic Pattern Theory”.

Home Range Concept. It is a concept that can be traced back to a publication in 1943 by W. H. Burt, who constructed maps delineating the spatial extent or outside boundary of an animal’s movement during the course of its everyday activities.

Traffic Pattern Theory. A people’s daily activity pattern is pretty regular, which comprises of several major events, such as school, work, home, shopping.

As I remember, a technical explanation of traffic pattern theory can be found in a report by Stefan Schonfelder, STRC 2001.

http://www.strc.ch/schoenfe.pdf

What happened here is if you are looking at the traffic pattern of a person, saying a full-time employed, 45 years, car, 3-person-household, one child, the regular activity route is so LIMITED. So, does this mean …</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the LBS you mentioned, my year-old comment, which you might see it somewhere before, is the following.</p>
<p>These years I browsed around about the location-based services (LBS).  A more detailed explanation of LBS for mobiles can be found by</p>
<p><a href="http://to.swang.googlepages.com/" rel="nofollow">http://to.swang.googlepages.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://to.swang.googlepages.com/lbs" rel="nofollow">http://to.swang.googlepages.com/lbs</a> </p>
<p>Most people believe it would be the next big thing or killer app. Quite a few others have different opinion. e.g.,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smallsurfaces.com/2008/06/do-we-need-lbs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smallsurfaces.com/2008/06/do-we-need-lbs/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lewebmobile.com/2008/06/do-humans-really-need-location-based.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewebmobile.com/2008/06/do-humans-really-need-location-based.html</a></p>
<p>Here I can possibly present one opinion from the consumer/end-user perspective, which I have posted in some other places too.</p>
<p>Do we need LBS so badly?</p>
<p>Before I really go to the details. Let me give a review of one simple concept and theory here, which are called “Home Range Concept” and “Traffic Pattern Theory”.</p>
<p>Home Range Concept. It is a concept that can be traced back to a publication in 1943 by W. H. Burt, who constructed maps delineating the spatial extent or outside boundary of an animal’s movement during the course of its everyday activities.</p>
<p>Traffic Pattern Theory. A people’s daily activity pattern is pretty regular, which comprises of several major events, such as school, work, home, shopping.</p>
<p>As I remember, a technical explanation of traffic pattern theory can be found in a report by Stefan Schonfelder, STRC 2001.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.strc.ch/schoenfe.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.strc.ch/schoenfe.pdf</a></p>
<p>What happened here is if you are looking at the traffic pattern of a person, saying a full-time employed, 45 years, car, 3-person-household, one child, the regular activity route is so LIMITED. So, does this mean …</p>
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		<title>Comment on W3C to Run Online Mobile Web Training Course by Dil Egitimi</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/05/w3c-to-run-online-mobile-web-training-course.html#comment-109978</link>
		<dc:creator>Dil Egitimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you know any information about this subject in other languages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you know any information about this subject in other languages?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The State of Mobile Blogging: It Ain&#8217;t Pretty by jonaha</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/01/the-state-of-mobile-blogging-it-aint-pretty.html#comment-106287</link>
		<dc:creator>jonaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should try tumblr.com and brightkite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should try tumblr.com and brightkite</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Daniel Appelquist</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-99278</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Appelquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that, Andrea -- I've fixed and updated the deck.  It's important to note that all the recommendations about mobile Ajax in the presentation are preliminary -- but we are going to be contributing these ideas into the Best Practices 2.0 document for further discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that, Andrea &#8212; I&#8217;ve fixed and updated the deck.  It&#8217;s important to note that all the recommendations about mobile Ajax in the presentation are preliminary &#8212; but we are going to be contributing these ideas into the Best Practices 2.0 document for further discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Andrea Trasatti</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-99063</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Trasatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trasatti, 1 s, 2 t's. :(

&lt;a href="http://deviceatlas.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;DeviceAtlas.com&lt;/a&gt;, .mobi is for mobile devices. Plug appreciated, of course!

Very interesting all the part about caching, we should have some tests!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trasatti, 1 s, 2 t&#8217;s. :(</p>
<p><a href="http://deviceatlas.com" rel="nofollow">DeviceAtlas.com</a>, .mobi is for mobile devices. Plug appreciated, of course!</p>
<p>Very interesting all the part about caching, we should have some tests!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Daniel Appelquist: Mobile Ajax and the Future of the Web &#171; no.5 blog</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-97205</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Appelquist: Mobile Ajax and the Future of the Web &#171; no.5 blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here!) by Daniel Appelquist of Vodafone, held at the Web 2.0 Expo last month. He was kind enough to make the slides publicly available, so here they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here!) by Daniel Appelquist of Vodafone, held at the Web 2.0 Expo last month. He was kind enough to make the slides publicly available, so here they [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on W3C to Run Online Mobile Web Training Course by Philipp Hoschka</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/05/w3c-to-run-online-mobile-web-training-course.html#comment-96894</link>
		<dc:creator>Philipp Hoschka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan - thanks for the advertising - unfortunately, the course is now full - went much quicker than we thought!

-Philipp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan - thanks for the advertising - unfortunately, the course is now full - went much quicker than we thought!</p>
<p>-Philipp</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Web2.0 Expo Lesetips at mobile ajax - mobile2.0 news</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-95704</link>
		<dc:creator>Web2.0 Expo Lesetips at mobile ajax - mobile2.0 news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Slides zu &#8220;Mobile Ajax and the future of the web&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Slides zu &#8220;Mobile Ajax and the future of the web&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beyond Point and Click by Håkan Jonsson</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html#comment-95434</link>
		<dc:creator>Håkan Jonsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manufacturers trade patents all the time. Few are kept to create a temporal monopoly except for a short time. Thus Apple's patents doesn't mean the gestures won't be implemented in other devices if the user's demand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manufacturers trade patents all the time. Few are kept to create a temporal monopoly except for a short time. Thus Apple&#8217;s patents doesn&#8217;t mean the gestures won&#8217;t be implemented in other devices if the user&#8217;s demand it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Parul</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-94752</link>
		<dc:creator>Parul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative presentation. Thanks a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative presentation. Thanks a lot!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 Expo Presentation Online by Alex Drewniak</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/web2expopresentation.html#comment-94602</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Drewniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, 

My name is Alex and I work with Rebtel. 

Just wanted to let you know that I loved your talk during the Expo. It ranks very high among the numerous ones I had the pleasure of attending. 

Best regards, 

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, </p>
<p>My name is Alex and I work with Rebtel. </p>
<p>Just wanted to let you know that I loved your talk during the Expo. It ranks very high among the numerous ones I had the pleasure of attending. </p>
<p>Best regards, </p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is &#8220;Mobile 2.0&#8243; (Beta) by Mobile 2.0 – when and how &#124; Mobile 2.0 and Emerging Mobile Media Services</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2006/11/what-is-mobile-20-beta.html#comment-93300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile 2.0 – when and how &#124; Mobile 2.0 and Emerging Mobile Media Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#62; Next generation of data services to mobile connected devices – Applequist [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Beyond Point and Click by Alex Craxton</title>
		<link>http://www.torgo.com/blog/2008/04/beyond-point-and-click.html#comment-90584</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Craxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have to test on-device for the sake of user experience, but what do you do when something fails, you rely on the device telling you where the problem is? I guess this comes down to how Apple (et al) integrate a development environment into the device so you can automate things a bit better. I just think not being able to debug and fix an application either on device or in a simulator/emulator is a real barrier. As a tech community we should not allow ourselves to go back to the days before good debug/simulation enviornments, worst UX is when an app is buggy and dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have to test on-device for the sake of user experience, but what do you do when something fails, you rely on the device telling you where the problem is? I guess this comes down to how Apple (et al) integrate a development environment into the device so you can automate things a bit better. I just think not being able to debug and fix an application either on device or in a simulator/emulator is a real barrier. As a tech community we should not allow ourselves to go back to the days before good debug/simulation enviornments, worst UX is when an app is buggy and dies.</p>
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